College professor, scholar and academic Michael Eric Dyson interviewed Nas on MSNBC’s The Ed Show and had a wide ranging discussion on topics like Barack Obama’s job performance, politics rap lyricism and musical longevity. As far as how Nas been able to stay on point despite his debut album, Illmatic, being released almost 20 years ago, the Queensbridge rapper had a relatively simple answer.

“I’d say passion,” explained Nas, whose latest album, Life Is Good, debuted at #1 on the Billboard 200 chart…

Watch the full interview below: